and they love him and want him to be reelected, they are also concerned about governor romney, that middle group, the group that is not part of the campaign day to day but will vote, they now see governor rom think as acceptable, it pretty much has been one variable in the race, will governor romney be seen as a electable. >> rose: not for everybody. >> certainly people in ohio are still wondering about that. >> rose: and women. >> sure. request this working class people, women, there are tens of millions of americans or whom that is still an open question i think in the battleground states, hundreds of thousand. >> rose: and i have had some people sit at this table and tell me the following. if governor romney loses, and they go to write the book that defines the campaign, one thing that will be paramount is how he did not respond to attacks that took place against him from a large part of the obama campaign budget after the convention. >> well and even before i would go back to the spring when the president's allies were defining him as an out of touch plutocrat with secret tax re